United States of Israel-Palestine

September 15th

There is a Sept. 15 Protest in Washington DC. I have to comment on the reaction of Armageddonists to this event shortly. I will do the research so you don't have to.

ISRAELI JETS FIRED ON BY SYRIAN FORCES

ISRAELI JETS FIRED ON BY SYRIAN FORCES. One has to wonder at the extacy Armageddon hawks must feel at this news. Especially since the Iran nuclear threat appears to be a much repeated topic among this group, just as the WMD issue had been in the case of Iraq.

Hagee vs. Carter

The main force behind supporting Israel according to carter: "Well, there’s an inherent commitment in America, which I share as a Christian, of a deep commitment to make sure that Israel is safe and that Israel is free and that they can seek for peace. So there's a strong inclination for all of us to support Israel's continued existence in peace. And that is added onto by the very effective work of the American Israeli group called AIPAC"
-Carter

Note that AIPAC is just the icing on the cake. AIPAC's leverage comes from exploiting this vast reservoir of the need to see a resurrected Isreael which to many on the religious right and left consider to be the precursor to the second coming.

The fact is though that Carter is a conditional supporter of Israel. That is a giant blemish to Armageddon hawks such as Hagee. Which is why he calls Carter "Israel's Enemy in America."

Jimmy Carter failed to rise to the occasion and criticize Hagee on his theology of bloody destruction.

I'm not sure if this is Carter's way of giving the other cheak, but it seems like he isn't answering Hagee's accusation. I would advise Carter to read this article. Here's an extract:

This pressure for warlike behavior comes from two types of end-time Christians. The "dispensationalists" insist that true believers will be "raptured" into heaven just before a catastrophic war between "left behind" believers and the forces of the Antichrist. "Dominionist" end-timers presuppose that the United States, as a Christian nation, will act as a special representative of God in the final battles. The Dominionists forge on toward the construction, or "reconstruction," of an American theocracy to fulfill God's end-time plan. The two brands cross over and blend. Collectively, they call themselves Christian Zionists to affirm their support of Israel's control over the holy lands.

As war cries from Islamic terrorists and end-time Christians create a danger for ever-expanding religious battles in the Middle East, a small cadre of Christian Jewish and Muslim leaders has become alarmed.

Osama bin SHUT UP

It is amazing how bin Laden and/or fake Laden manages to pop up around election time to play the role of political pundit. I think the entire world pretty much needs to hear nothing from Osama and company.

I looked up Osama bin SHUT UP and found the article below of interest:

[Armageddonism?] Spying? Torture? Illegal airstrikes? SHUT UP and hate Bin Laden. This was the theme on prison planet.

Hagee Sells Iran Nuclear Threat to Fox News

Listen the Armageddon salesman do his thing.

Armageddonism, Daniel Pipes, and his "Analysis"

How does Armageddonism affect his analysis of middle east affairs?

There are one of three possibilities:

Either he ignores Armageddonism all-together because he does not know about them; which makes him a pawn in the hands of Armageddonists.
Or he knows of them and allows himself to be used by them; which means they turned him into a survivalist (with their constant talk of everyone is trying to exterminate Jews).
Or he knows of them and attempts to use them for his own ends; in which case it is a case of "the means justify the ends."

Reality is probably somewhere between options 2 and 3. He is likely both a survivalist and attempts to use Armageddonists for his own purposes. Either way, he becomes complicit in their war-mongering and agitation for Armageddon, though he does not himself believe in Armageddon.

Many are Ashamed of Hagee and CUFI

"I just don't like playing Christians/Jew vs the Arab world, it's racist and I'm ashamed that John Hagee would do this stuff" said a critic of HAGEE.

Watch the video to find out why

In the video Hagee attempts to brainwash his audience: "They want to die, they don't want to live... They want to die, the don't want to live."

It appears that for Hagee, if Armageddon comes tomorrow, that's one day too late.

Time and again, as I listen to Hagee, he reminds me of Jim Carry - the karate instruction as in this video:

He draws up a picture of Muslims who should behave according to the specific formula he imagines. Hagee is unable to imagine that a Muslim can be non-violent, just as Jim Carrey is unable to imagine an attacker who bends his elbows.

Armageddonists Believe Nuclear War is Pre-Ordained

Apparently, military psychologists have been thinking about the threat of Nuclear War provoked by Armageddonists.

Millions of Americans, primarily premillennialist fundamentalist Christians, believe that God has foreordained a global nuclear war as the precursor to the Second Coming of Christ.
- The Journal of Humanistic Psychology

Therefore, they recommend that psychologists "should be engaged in screening out personnel who are convinced that a nuclear attack against Russia would accord with God's will."

Should this policy not be extended to all personnel involved with middle east policy making? Consider the ramifications of Armageddonists empowered to either support peace in the middle east or war. Would they not opt for war every time because they believe that war is the precursor to the second coming?

13 year old pleads for her generation in front of UN

"Even when we have more than enough, we are afraid to share."

These are the little children we need to plan a safer tomorrow for. One where Armageddon is not instigated.

AIPAC and CUFI; What unites them?

I often wondered how it is possible for AIPAC (a Jewish organization) to be in league with CUFI (an Armageddonist organization).

This is a good topic for a PHD dissertation or for a couple of books.

Your initial reaction would likely be "It's terrorism stupid." But that's hard to buy, especially given the fact that Armageddonists have been talking about restoring Jews to Israel (as a practical matter rather than wishful thinking) before Jews dreamt of doing so. Plus if you look at a book such as "The Zionism of God" by Claude Duvernoy, there are passages claiming that Jews were persecuted across Europe because God wanted them to relocate to Israel. And that if they were not persecuted, they would get too comfortable in their new Babylons. And then he adds an ominous note: "as is the case in America". As if he another round of persecutions in America is needed to motivate Jews to move out of America and settle in Israel. (so that they will throw a bigger welcome party for the Second Coming?)

So why is AIPAC joining hands with CUFI? That's the million dollar question. Here's an attempt to explain the linkage:

At present, Jewish Zionists believe they are using the gullible Christian Zionist. While the Christian Zionist believes he is using the Jew as a tool for fulfilling prophesy; ever instilling in him the threat of annihilation and subjecting him to psychological operations to make him spurn any peace deal with Palestinians. Ever pushing him to attack the enemies whose destruction should (according to their extremist interpretations) usher in the return of the Lord and Savior to rule over the earth for a thousand years.

Rapture: The End Times Error that Leaves the Bible Behind

This book by David B. Currie demonstrates that alternate readings of prophesy are available and that God's plan for the future of the world doesn't have to be as filled with darkness and disaster as Hagee, Pat Robertson, and Fox News would have us believe.

CUFI in Damage Control Mode

CNN's recent "God's Christian Warriors" put CUFI in damage control mode. They felt that CUFI's message was put across well, except they didn't like being featured in the same venue as "God's Muslim Warriors." CUFI's response in the words of David Brog:

Judaism and Christianity have utterly rejected terror as a tactic. As a result, deaths from terrorism in the name of these two great faiths remain as rare as fatalities on roller coaster rides-- too numerous, but hardly a threat to civilization as we know it.
The contrast with Islamic terror could not be more stark. To cite just one statistic, in the month of July an average of over 110 Iraqis were killed each day in suicide bombings and other acts of Islamic terror. Thus Islamic terror claims more victims in one country in one day than Jewish and Christian terror have claimed worldwide in the course of the past 15 years.

What CUFI doesn't want you to know is that its members were the most pro-war group and played a pivotal role in manipulating politicians into starting the war on Iraq and are currently doing their best to fulfill their interpretation of prophesy which demands that Iran must also be destroyed.

In this sense, CUFI not only promotes a certain perverted world-view, but plays a pivotal role in making it come true. And certainly CUFI's conscience is not bothered by the likelihood of the carnage its brand of "God sponsored" war mongering has caused and will continue to cause if left unchecked.

Seeing world-events through Armageddon Tinted Glasses

Here's what John Van Impe, whose website describes him as "the man known as the 'Walking Bible' and one of the world's foremost prophetic scholars," just look at the supposedly inspired armageddon tinted world-view he promotes to his audience:

Armageddon coalition forming

Syria, Iran and Turkey - three nations depicted in the Bible as forming an endtimes coalition against Israel - have put differences aside to establish themselves as a major regional power center, according to Intelligence Digest.
The prestigious journal warns that if Syria's President Hafez Assad can manage to bring Iraq into this coalition - with or without Saddam Hussein - western influence in the region will be thoroughly undermined. (Ezekiel 38:5)

If this doesn't get you trigger happy to get Armageddon started already, get a load of the answer to this question and answer by Van Imp:

Q: all your studies of the Bible is there any mention of where the United States will be before and after the Rapture? I have head a few pastors say there is no mention of it and some say we won’t be around.
- Kim Peterson

a: The United States will very definitely be around; you can find that in Jeremiah chapters 50 & 51 and Revelation chapter 18.

But, remember when Russia makes that move there are some nations that object and that’s Ezekiel 38:13 “Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof…” Look up Sheba in your dictionaries – its Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and they are going to go along with the American nations because Tarshsih there is Great Briton. The symbol for America is the great eagle, but the symbol for Britain in the great lion – and there is Tarshish with all her young lions – the English speaking nations of the world which of course takes in America, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, etc. So yes they will be here.

But there will be mass confusion in America because when the Rapture takes place this is the greatest Christian nation on the earth right now and when the Rapture happens there will be millions taken and there will be mass confusion here in this country.

Terror In Jesus’ Name

This important expose was written by Yoginder Sikand, a journalist from India. He has a Master’s Degree in sociology from Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi, and a Ph.D in history from the University of London. He concludes:

Christian Zionism is hardly unique in its use of religion for such blatantly political ends, but given the immense clout enjoyed by its advocates today, especially in America, it is a much more menacing threat to world peace than is sometimes imagined and cannot be simply dismissed as the ravings of lunatics on the fringe.
- Terror In Jesus’ Name

Who would you want to stand with at Armageddon?

One need only look at the way Jesse Helms described Bolton, "the kind of man with whom I would want to stand at Armageddon, or what the Bible describes as the final battle between good andevil", to see that Bolton was being sold by the religious connotations of the act. Bolton was a political way of saying "Screw the U.N., we stand with the Christians".

References

CNN's God Warrior Specials

CNN has a special report out called "God's Warriors" - which seeks to chronicle religious extremism among adherents to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam

While well intentioned, it is unfortunate that Christine Amanpoure even bothers to highlight the abortion clinic violence as a form of Christian extremism. This sounds like the answer presidential candidates would give when asked what is your worst shortcoming.

Armageddonists would stand up and say that their worst shortfall is "we love babies so much, that some in our ranks get out of control and attack clinics that do abortion." At the same time they advocate the destruction whole societies including babies in order to hasten the second coming of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

It must be too hot of a topic to highlight the intense desire to destroy Iran among Armageddonists based on false secular pretenses just as they got us into the Iraq debacle under false pretences.

In order to do the subject any justice, Christine should have included in her report people with the following opinion:

God has decreed that this present evil age shall pass away in a flame of fire, death, and judgment. No amount of peace talks, goodwill conferences, or think tanks will be able to change that. -Dennis Pollock, Nuclear Weapons in the End Times

Friends Of Israel and AIPAC Envision "Israel's Final Holocaust" and "Jew Toast"

I found this article by Bruce Wilson with the above title which began with the following words:

In previous installments of an ongoing series, I've examined the beliefs of Pastor John Hagee, founder of "Christians United For Israel", an ostensibly pro-Israel lobby whose members seek to trigger a Mideast conflict they hope will spiral into a devastating world war that will cause Global mass death and the death of 2/3 of Jews in Israel.
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Previous installments in an ongoing series, by several authors, on John Hagee and Christian Zionism:

AIPAC Event Helps Mainstream Allegations Of "Satanic Liberal Jewish Conspiracy"

Donohue Softpeddles Hagee's Catholic Bashing

"Be Jewish In Five Easy Days", The Twelve Tribes Of Hagee

Holocaust For Zion : CUFI's Christian Zionism Made Simple

GOP House Minority Whip Roy Blunt To Help Nuclear War Advocate

What Secret "Other Matters" Did McCain Discuss With "Apocalypse Now" Hagee ?

recent stories from other authors:

Max Blumenthal : AIPAC Cheers an Anti-Semitic Holocaust Revisionist (and Abe Foxman Approves)

Sarah Posner: The Goy Who Cried Wolf: The Israel lobby gives America's leading Christian right warmonger a warm welcome

Armageddonism's Effect on Mass Media

The Iranian response to the wild myth that Ahmadinejad said he wants to wipe Israel off the map have been ignored by the media.

Here's why I think that happened:

The belief system of Armageddonists is vindicated only if Israel has an enemy bent on destroying it.
The media wants to give people what they want to hear and therefore ignores what challenges popular opinion because it will be perceived as propaganda.

Ask not why they hate us; Ask why we hate them

If everyone were to focus on the log in their own eye, there would be no need to reach out to "help" remove the splinter from our neighbor's eye.

discuss.

What if we poke their eye attempting to remove the splinter? What if they poke our eye?

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

discuss.

CUFI hosts a who's who banquet of Armageddonists

John Hagee, founder of Christians United for [Armageddon in] Israel (CUFI), an astounding group of heads of state, senators, and other leaders gather to pay homage to the theological cancer eating away at America's civilized foundations.

Watch The Unauthorized Christians United for Israel Tour by Max Blumenthal.

So who is tossing their weight behind the destructive Armageddonist theology?

Senator John McCain, Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Newt Gingrich, Ambassador Dore Gold, Senator Joe Lieberman
- [McCain Openly Courts Hagee]

Netanyahu's Pack of Wolves Example

As I sat there listening to Netanyahu speaking on the same platform as John Hagee, the Armageddonist extremist, I began reflecting on Netanyahu's pack of wolves example. It goes something like this:

Palestinians are like a pack of wolves chasing a pick up truck with sheep on it. Everytime Israel makes a concession, it's like the shepherd throwing a sheep to the wolves. As soon as they eat it up , they start chasing the truck again. What the shepherd needs to do is take that shot gun and get rid of the wolves.

From the context you can read all sorts of things including the following:

The Palestinians are the pack of wolves: there is nothing you can do to satisfy them except kill them.
The sheep represent Israel: The innocent party in need of protection.
The driver is Israel's shepherd: A role proudly adopted by Armageddonists.

Someone needs to tell the sheep that the shepherd one day plans to slaughter them. More precisely, as a Jewish man, Netanyahu must be aware of John Hagee's belief that the destruction of Jewish society is part of what must happen when Jesus returns. To the Palestinians, this is a clear signal that at least some segment of Israeli society sees the desire of Palestinians to have their own state as an insatiable appetite for territory. What can be done about this? If Palestinians request half the Gaza strip to ease these concerns, even that would be considered as just the first bite out of Isreal; to be followed by endless bites. This view is also held by Armageddonists. For this reason, the only way forward for Palestinians is to demand equality under the existing Israeli state, rather than reaching for an independent state which is held before them like mirage of water in front of a thirsty desert traveler.

Palestinian Christian Resonse to Armageddonism

I found this article to be of interest. Here's an excerpt:

Describing the Evangelical Zionist's immoral and heretical interpretation of biblical prophetic and apocalyptic texts, Rev. Michael Prior concludes that the god of such revelation is a "militaristic and xenophobic genocidist..."

Apocalyptic Genocide is exactly what John Nelson Darby had in mind when he began preaching in the 1800s that Jews should be restored to Jerusalem. At that time, he was rebuffed by Jewish leaders since they lead prosperous lives in Europe. But after the mayhem and panic caused by the the Nazi crimes, Jews were more willing to take up the offer and join hands with Armageddonists to embark on the Zionist experiment.

This is why Ronald Reagan said, "We may be the generation that sees Armageddon"

This is why the little boy in the Jesus Camp documentary says, "I believe my generation is key to Jesus coming back"

Armageddonists - similar to Hitler's 3rd Reich

Christian Zionists (Armageddonists), despite all their professed love for Israel, share a central theme in common with Hitler's 3rd Reich: that a point in time exists when the role of Jews in History will end.

Because Nazi Germany believed that point had passed, they attempted to wipe out Jews through genocide; Armageddonists, on the other hand, disagree only about when the role of Jews in history will end. Not if, but when it will happen. They believe that there is one more mission for Jews: to fight the battle of Armageddon in order to fulfill their extremist interpretation of prophesy which once fulfilled leads to the return of Jesus Christ.

The role of Palesinians and Arabs in the region is to be destroyed completely in the battle of Armageddon so that God's glory may be known. At this point also, the role of Jews in history ends and they must accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour or die. This is why Armageddonists write books such as "Countdown Jerusalem." The countdown to the end of the role of Jews in History.

If they were to whisper advice into Hitler's ear, it would be "Not yet, now is not the time."

Therefore, it is time for everyone living in Israel to talk about living together in a United State of Israel-Palestine, rather than playing along with the Armageddonist game of let's talk peace and do war till Jesus Christ comes back to sort out the situation.

Famous Armageddonist: Lord Balfour & Woodrow Wilson

“After the Reformation, there was a small group of Christians who began to read the Bible much more literally. They were opposed to making it abstract. So when they read the word Israel, this meant a real biological people, the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. If Israel means the Jews, the Bible is a Zionist document because the Bible says the Jews will inherit the land of Israel.

Accordingto Brog, the rejection of replacement theology meant that in order for a Christian to do God’s will on earth, he must bless the Jewish people.

“Now, what was always a minority group in Europe, became a majority group in America. The dominant strain of Christianity in America today is still evangelical,” emphasized Brog.

Evangelusm’s historical impact

In his book, Brog writes of three world leaders who, because of their belief in the Jewish biblical right to the land of Israel, expedited the establishment of the State of Israel: Lord Balfour, Woodrow Wilson, and Harry Truman. While a big supporter of Israel, it is unclear if Truman was an evangelical (of the Armageddonist brand).

Source: A blessing or a curse? American evangelists explained. A conversation with David Brog, a Rabbi who is executive director of Christians United For Israel, an evangelical Christian lobby group lead by popular Pastor John Hagee, demystifies intentions, beliefs of 'Zionist Christians' and their support for Israel David Brog

Book About Christian Zionism

I was looking at the comments on the book, "Christian Zionism: Road-Map to Armageddon?, wherein a reviewer writes:

"In fact, as Sizer (the author) shows, the existence of the state of Israel today would be unthinkable without the inspiration and support of Christian Zionists in Britain and America."

Here's an excerpt from Chapter 4 (The Political Implications of Christian Zionism):

The Chosen People: Supporting Israeli Colonialism
Restorationism: Facilitating Aliyah from Russia and Eastern Europe
Eretz Israel: Sustaining the West Bank Settlements
Jerusalem: Lobbying for International Recognition
The Temple: Identifying with Religious Zionism
The Future: Opposing Peace and Hastening Armageddon
The Political Implications of Christian Zionism: Conclusions

You can find a full listing of chapters here.

BBC vs. Aljazeera: Coverage of Armageddon

Search for 'Armageddon' on BBC and the search produced no hits (as of 6/4/2007). Looks like a well respected news organization is envolved in self sensorship. However, the same word on Aljazeera gave the following results:

Was the Iraq war religiously motivated?

Although several reasons have been given for the US invasion and occupation of Iraq, debate still rages over whether ideological or religious concerns were the real motives.

Evangelist warns Bush over Jerusalem

American television evangelist Pat Robertson has warned President George Bush that he will risk losing Christian support if he stops backing Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem.

Against Israel against God

The alliance between US Christian Zionists, Israel and its US supporters has had very negative consequences for the Palestinians.

Comedy Break

"The Landlord", watch it if you need to relax.

Restorationism

Not just another ism; it's the why of what has been happening. Here are a couple of references to get you caught up on this phenomenon:

Definition on Wikipedia
What Oren’s account of Restorationism tells us is that the American attachment to Israel is more embedded in our DNA then we realize

Attitude of Jews Oblivious to Armageddonism

I found this article to be profound in its insight into the reality of relations between Israelis and Palestinians living in the camps. Note that this speech comes to you from Tel Aviv.

The fact that there are Jews who have the freedom to say these things while the same views cannot be articulated by mainstream presidential candidates in the USA is testament to the influence of Armageddonist clout here.

All is not lost yet. You can make a difference. You can help to be part of the new generation of hope which has the audacity to talk-back to the doom-and-gloomers.

Barack Obama Bitten by Armageddon Bug?

It seams that for all his good intentions, Barak Obama is suffering from the effects of the Armageddon bug. While trying to reach-out for the Evengelical vote, he was poisoned by their world view and is now grapling to make sense of the world as seen through their point of view.

Here's how you know Obama has bought into the Armageddonist Hype: when instead of tempering the call to violence coming from the Pat Robertsons and Hagees of the world he joins the choir and sings along. Here are a few google hits from today when searching Obama Iraq:

Obama would consider missile strikes on Iran Chicago Tribune ... US Senate candidate Barack Obama suggested Friday that the United States one day might have to launch surgical missile strikes into Iran and Pakistan to ...www.chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/chi-0409250111sep25,1,4555304.story - Similar pages
Democrats and Iran: Look Who Supports Bush's Next War - by Joshua ... Recently, the Democratic Party's rising "progressive" star Barack Obama said he would favor "surgical" missile strikes against Iran. ...www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=4521 - 41k - May 29, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages
Democratic keynote speaker Barack Obama calls for missile strikes ... Obama told the Tribune, “[T]he big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures, including economic sanctions, which I hope will be ...www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/obam-o01.shtml - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Hagee & Fox News on an Anti-American Rampage

John Hagee had the audacity to propose a war scenario which is in-line with his Armageddonist Ideology. And what's wrong with FOX NEWS that they let this happen?

Has FOX News exposed itself as the quintissential anti-American news show? Isn't John Hagee really saying "Death to America" by advocating policies which in his belief system should destroy the world in the process of bringing back Jesus.

Armageddonist in Secular Clothing

What if a congressman or representative were to come out and say, "I only care about national security. And all my decisions are based solely on secular considerations; my religious views have nothing to do with policy making decisions."

Is this person really secular? Or an Armageddonist in secular clothing?

To answer this question you need to address not only how to neutralize national security threats, but also how this threat came to be.

If you think of the national security threat as a flooded swamp. Solving the threat means clearing the swamp. It doesn't make sense to just pump out the water. You need to cut off the various streams which replenish the swamp. If you don't do this, you will end up having to clear the swamp endlessly. Just when you think you are done, here it fills up again.

It is madness to keep doing the same thing, yet expect different results.

This is the example of the policy maker who asserts his/her desire to eliminate national security threats, yet fails to cut off the sources whose sole intent is to exacerbate the threats.

What if a small group of evil people wanting to destroy the middle-east for the purpose of fulfilling Bible-Prophesy in hopes of bringing back Jesus Christ were instrumental in maintaining the blockade over Iraq which resulted in the deaths of something like a million people.

Suppose that the Iraqis did not like that and that certain individuals who sympathized with them were to inflict violent acts toward our country because of it.

There should be no doubt that we must defend ourselves from the threats coming at us. Equaly, we must not give a free pass to those who hide behind a moral agenda in order to direct our foreign policy in ways which seek to fulfill their odd interpretations of prophesy. To them, Armageddon is a mission to be accomplished; not merely prophesy to be observed.

Of course Armageddonists are free to believe as they want. However, it is shameful that secular people tolerate people with such frames of mind to control foreign policy. Suppose that the so called secular leaders knew about these people's goals and desires; yet neither criticized them nor tried to warn of the danger they pose.

Does that not mean that the so called secular leaders are more unpatriotic that the religious zealots who hope to bring about Armageddon; simply because they provide the cover under which Armageddonists will destroy our society from within?

Think about it.

Christopher Hitchens

I started reading up on Hitchens after viewing his commentary on the legacy of Jerry Falwell. Somehow he manages to both hate Falwell and support the Iraq war. Any ideas why? From watching the video below, you make your own conclusion:

My conclusions from watching this video:

Hitchen's world-view although purportedly secular, picks up where Armageddonists leave off especialy about the motives of Israel's neighbors.
Adopts the "Conflict of Civilizations" world-view, which itself is a darling book of the Armageddonists. Example "The fascist side of Islam wants to export the fight o where we are so they could win it." He does not consider the ramifications of the Armageddonist agitation as the source of the problem, rather the reaction to it is what he considers the source of the Islamic threat.
Supports a two state solutions; ie separate but equal rather than a one shared state for all.

Jerry Falwell: Dark Legacy

Some people in their rush to scrub clean Falwell's legacy ignore the fact that when all is said and done, Falwell advocated a speedy destruction of the world due to his staunch support for Armageddon. Very disappointing.

Here is Christopher Hitchin's summary of Falwell's legacy:

If only Barack Obama would stand up to this menacing Armageddonism so many evangelicals rally around instead of trying to "reach out" to them. Unless of course by reaching out he means to correct their tendency to support the road to Armageddon. I think this may be the direction he should take, but somehow I imagine it is too hot of a topic to touch even for Obama. To his credit he does mention that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are negative influences on the evangelicals:

"...if we don't reach out to evangelical Christians and other religious Americans and tell them what we stand for, Jerry Falwell's and Pat Robertson's will continue to hold sway." [source]

However he does not, and I believe no politician is able to directly criticize the addiction to Armageddon which these bible thumpers spew from their pulpits.

Winograd Report, Jewish Zionism, & Armageddonism

The Winograd Reort exposes a stark difference between the Jewish Zionist vision for Israel and the "Christian Zionist" (Armageddonist) vision for Israel.

The Jewish desire is summed up by the Winograd report which notes "Foreign Ministry not sufficiently included during war in Lebanon." This shows that Israelis would very much like to settle differences without having to unleash the arsenal of weapons Armageddonists have so generously put into their hands.

On the other hand, if you look at what Armageddonist preachers and cheerleaders on the Right Wing are saying, the only problem with the destruction of Lebanon is that it does not go far enough. See this fox news video for how the Armageddonists think:

Armageddonists forgiven because of... Jesus

Unpatriotic to the Core: John Hagee's Politics

In 1998, the official American policy in the middle-east was land for peace. When John Hagee was asked how he felt about his vision for Israel (ie: no land for peace; rather Israelis and Palestinians should annihilate each other in the battle of Armageddon as prophesied so that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may return) differing from U.S. policy, Hagee replied: "I am a Bible scholar and a theologian and from my perspective, the law of God transcends the law of the United States government and the United States State Department. The United States wants Israel to surrender territory for Palestinian promises of peace."

Now how patriotic does that sound?

Why six imams were pulled from US Airways

The reason six Muslim leaders were pulled from US Airways has to do with suspicions which are mainly fanned not by events at the airport or inside the plane, but rather by rhetoric coming from Armageddonists like televangelist John Hagee, slick Pat Robertson, the esteemed Rep. Virgil Goode, and dittohead Rush Limbaugh.

The chief players however are televangelists who claim to teach people the truth and feed their flock utterly hateful information bordering on the call to genocide on Rawandan radio before the genocide there.

It is highly likely that passengers who believe their Armageddonist teachers' lessons about Muslims will lie in order to thwart the "mandate" of Muslims, which the Armageddonists propound is the destruction of the non-Muslim.

There are many things which passnegers claim they heard from the Imams which are completely out of character for the Imams to say, and the Imams totally reject those allegations as in this article.

Unconscious Agents of Armageddonism

There are points of convergence and divergence between any two points of view. This applies to Zionism as well. There is the Jewish Zionist block on one hand and the Christian Zionist block. They agree on the present but disagree on the future.

They each want to see a strong Israel, but for different reasons. For Jewish Zionists, it's all about survival, while Christian Zionists are in it for the Second Coming. For them, a strong Israel is but a stepping stone to Armageddon; which is why "Armageddonist" is a more fitting name for people who hold such an ideology than "Christian Zionist".

The question which poses itself is: which one is using which? Is Jewish Zionism stronger than Christian Zionism so that it can steer it? or is it the other way around and Jewish Zionism is stronger so that it controls Christian Zionism?

From my research, I have concluded that Christian Zionism sawed the seeds of Jewish Zionism and nurtured it till it became a reality. So if this analysis is correct, then Jewish Zionists are acting unwittingly in the service of Christian Zionists.

Palestinians too, by supporting the notion of a separate but equal entity for themselves are aiding the Armageddonist plot. The more conflict Armageddoinsts see, the greater their satisfaction at the unfolding events and the higher their hope for a quick rapture (after a satisfying bout of Armageddon - aka battle for Jerusalem).

By being opposed to supporting a unification plan within Israel, Palestinians are doing themselves a disservice, and their people a disservice since they cannot hope to provide the most basic function of governments: that of providing security for their subjects. In light of this fact, by insisting on getting independence, they get sovereignty over nothing.

Armageddonists are busy lobbying to make sure that there is no such thing as a viable peace plan. As a Rabbi once said, "They are not interested in bringing the two parties to the negotiating table" (or something along those lines), which means they are more interested to see these two sides fight it outside, somewhere around the the area east, west, north, and south of the valley of Armageddon.

Therefore, anyone who contributes to the fulfillment of the Armageddonist goal of further mayhem stands accused of aiding this heresy, either intentionally or accidentally. Either way, the result is disastrous.

Overcoming Zionism: A book Armageddonists dare not touch

This is a book which Armageddonists would never in a million years endorse because they are not interested in peace, reconciliation, or progress. Rather, they are entirely motivated by their desire to see the world end as soon as possible in a war which should wipe out large parts of the Jewish and Arab worlds followed by the second coming of the "Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ," as they say.

Joel Kovel, being a conscious Jew - one who knows the desires of Armageddonists and how they set up Israel to be their Jesus bait - in writing this book which in essence short circuits all the investment of armament and ill-will Armageddonists have spent so far by promoting a paradigm shift from an Armageddon based peace plan to a democratic and unity peace plan. It is indeed a bold thing to say, there are not two sides to this conflict, only one.

Joel Kovel argues that the inner contradictions of Zionism have led Israel to a 'state-sponsored racism' fully as incorrigible as that of apartheid South Africa and deserving of the same resolution. Only a path toward a single-state secular democracy can provide the justice essential to healing the wounds of the Middle East [more...].

Times's Baghdad bureau chief pessimistic about Iraq plan

The Times's Baghdad bureau chief, John F. Burns, appeared on The Charlie Rose Show to discuss the situation in Iraq.

The Maliki Government is unable to rise above the urge for revenge. - John F. Burns

Bush, God, and the Media

While Christian conservatives and hard-line neo-conservatives may see the developments after Sept. 11, 2001 in a positive light (after all, one might say that God and the United States have been given a larger piece of the planet with which to work), all Americans should be leery of any government that merges religiosity into political ends.[full article]

Armageddonists Discussing Islam

It's so lovely to see Armageddonists discussing Islam in such a way as to justify their intended goal of destroying the middle-east in order to bring about the second coming of Jesus Christ.

There will be 1000s of arguments to justify why we must (MUST MUST MUST) destroy Muslims. That is the reason they make these arguments (under the guise of standing up for our values).

One only look at the last 50 years. The absence of actual invasions of Europian countries by Muslims is the reason why they resort to trying to pull arguments from any period in time, pulling out the worst anicdotal evidence, shouting the world is about to crack unless we realize what a danger Muslims are to us.

After watching this clip, the point you should walk away with is that you have to make the connection between their motivation for seeking to prime their audience for war with Muslims and their sick belief in the inevitability of the battle of Armageddon and the tribulations which must afflict the world as part of the series of events leading up to the return of Jesus Christ.

Israel, Islam and Armageddon According to Armageddonists

Armageddonists are all around us

Seemingly normal people who believe in the Armageddon - AKA the destruction of Babylon (Iraq), Persia (Iran), Lebanon, Syria, Kush (Somalia or Sudan, Pat Robertson isn't sure).

The American Muslim

This site has a series of responses to the Armageddonists' accusations against Muslims and Islam.

Fascist leader Hagee depicts Muslims as rabid killers & Jews as Christ killers

John Hagee, the megachurch pastor who is the current face of Christian Zionism in the United States, depicted Jews as Christ killers in a recent interview. Hagee also stated that Muslims have a "mandate" to kill Christians and Jews and that God caused Hurricane Katrina to destroy New Orleans to prevent a scheduled gay parade. [more]

Preaching to the quire

Armageddonists expressing the reasons why Muslims must be destroyed. Very interesting hate filled speaches. It would be nice to see a segment by segment response video posted by a Muslim scholar of note.

Armageddonism & the Justification of Spilling Muslim Blood

Armageddonists draw up arguments in such a way as to make the slaughter of millions of Muslims be an act of self-defence.

It's not unusual for a people who have confused the finite with the infinite - when they equate the created Jesus with the uncreated God; It is not unusual for such a people to blur the line between a possibility which has come to be and a possibility which has not come to be.

It isn't enough for them to misinterpret their own scriptures, but they also delve pretending to understand Muslim scripture, and under the guise of scholarship spread within their ranks the most dishonest interpretation of texts and are content to preach "the barbarians are at the gates and we must kill them or they will kill us" (Rev. John Hagee).

Olberman Mentions "Irrational Right"

In this video, Kieth Olberman mentions the Armageddonists whom he calls the "Irrational Right" as responsible for current Iraq Policy.

Connecting the Dots: Armageddonism and Policy

While researching Armageddon on google, I came across: BUSH WATCH...EVANGELIST BUSH

. It lists many of the reasons why the sway of Armageddonist evangelicals is bad for peace and democracy in America and specifically for Israel and Palestine.

ZIONISM - THE REAL ENEMY OF JEWS

Alan Hart, author of "ZIONISM: THE REAL ENEMY OF THE JEWS", talks about the Armageddon based Christian support for Israel and notes that they are "classic Jew haters" who only support Israel for the purpose of bringing about Armageddon. However he claims that Jews are using Armageddonists to further their goals.

The problem with this analysis is it's like blaming the roosters for getting into a cock-fight. Niether the Jews nor the Palestinians set up the fight. Britain, after WWII was tremendously thirsty for peace. Armageddonism (premillinialism) was popular among the Empire's elite because it was a road-map to bringing back Jesus. And today, if you tune into the popular preachers, Armageddon based prophesy is what they preach.

If anything, Armageddonists used the Jews to further their ends. So Jews are twice victims: They were victimized by Hitler and by the Armageddonists who see them as a tool to bring about the Armageddon.

What's the solution then? It is to break the link. Just as Baath party members were banned from participating in the government; Armageddonists should be distanced from the levers of power; otherwise, they will wreck any democracy they touch.

Who is John Nelson Darby?


	John Nelson Darby

British minister John Nelson Darby begins preaching in America. He would create an ingenious theology known as premillennial dispensationalism, which remains the dominant eschatological system in Christianity today. "Dispensationalism" refers to Darby's belief that human history can be divided into a series of epochs, or dispensations, in which God has dealt with humanity in different ways. Darby teaches that biblical prophecy refers to the past and future periods, but is silent on the present "Church Age," which began with Christ's crucifixion. By asserting that God's prophetic clock had temporarily stopped ticking, this "Great Parenthesis" ingeniously preserves prophecy while avoiding the risks of date-setting.

One of the most enduring elements of Darby's system is the Rapture, in which true believers in Christ would travel instantly to heaven, where they would watch the terrible seven-year Tribulation unfold on earth, killing all but a righteous few. His emphasis on the Jews' return to Palestine and his strong reliance on scripture over church authority have also won favor with fundamentalists. [source]

The Link: John Nelson Darby and Winston Churchill

I researched whether John Darby ever met Winston Churchill. Apparently not. It seems though that at least one student of Darby ministered to Churchill. John Nelson Darby died about 1880. Winston Churchill was born in 1874, which meant he was too young to have learned from Darby directly. Here's the evidence tying Churchill to Darby's associate- Robert Chapman (1803-1902 Churchill was 28 in 1902). Consider the following two points:

John Nelson Darby said of Robert Chapman: "He lives what I teach."¹
As a young man, Winston Churchill was taken to visit him¹

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References

Robert Chapman's Biography
Google search for further research ("winston churchill" "Nelson darby")

Winston Chuchill's Armageddonism

I always thought of Winston Churchill as a man of peace. When I read his visions of war in the middle east, I found myself having to read and re-read his words to make sure I didn't misread it. It leaves no doubt in my mind of the influence of Armageddonism on Churchill's mindset. What did Winston Churchill say that raises this irksome cloud over his head? Robert Fisk, a british journalist, delved into history and here's what he found reading Winston Churchill:

I’m going to read you a very brief paragraph by Winston Churchill, not about the Battle of Britain. It is Churchill prophesying the future from 1937, eleven years before the Nakba. This is Winston Churchill writing in a totally forgotten essay.
He reflected upon the future and wrote of the impossibility of a partitioned Palestine. And he talked of how, I quote -- this is Winston Churchill in 1937 --“The wealthy, crowded, progressive Jewish state” -- see, it doesn’t exist yet, but he’s already getting it right --“lies in the plains and on the sea coast of Palestine. Around it, in the hills and the uplands, stretching far and wide into the illimitable deserts, the warlike Arabs of Syria of Transjordania, of Arabia, backed by the armed forces of Iraq, offer the ceaseless menace of war. To maintain itself,” -- 1937, remember, -- “To maintain itself, the Jewish state will have to be armed to the teeth and must bring in every able-bodied man to strengthen its army. But how long will this process be allowed to continue by the great Arab populations in Iraq and Palestine? Can it be expected that the Arabs would stand by impassively and watch the building up, with Jewish world capital and resources, of a Jewish army, equipped with the most deadly weapons of war until it was strong enough not to be afraid of them? And if ever the Jewish army reached that point, who can be sure,” Churchill asked, “that, cramped within their narrow limits, they would not plunge out into the new undeveloped lands that lay around them?”
“Ouch,” I said when I read that. 1937.
-Robert Fisk [Sources: Pacific Views, Democracy Now]

The question that must be answered now is: what ideology did Churchill subscribe to which made him such a supporter of conflict? The bitter answer is that he was most likely influenced by the teachings of John Nelson Darby - the father of modern day premillenial dispensationalism (AKA Armageddonism).

Armageddonism, Big Money, and Policy Formulation

When analyzing middle east events and ideas, some notable scholars such as Noam Chomsky place a great emphasis on Oil as the driving engine. Their theme follows the logic of:

We are interested in the middle-east because of energy concerns.
Politicians are corrupted by oil money.

This however is only a partial answer since it does not address the question of why it is that Armageddonist preachers who don't see a penny from oil still support the policies pushed by those who stand to profit from oil. This is where it helps to look at the links between Armageddonism, Money, and Policy Formulation. The Tom Delay scandal as an example of how things work:

If you've followed the delay scandal... the politicians were using the religious leadership to influence the public into supporting a position which the politicians were getting big bucks for in return.

In the Delay scandal, the entities behind the big bucks were Indian Casinos. In the Middle East, those entities are big oil companies with the largest profit margin in the history of the world.

In the Delay scandal, religious leaders told their congregants to oppose casinos from being built as a moral obligation. While in the middle east, religious leaders beat the war drums claiming Armageddon is a birth-pang which will result in peace for the world through the second coming of Jesus Christ.

GodAssault: Armageddonism's Ultimate Aim

An up and coming journalist to watch out for is Lisa Lambert, who wrote a piece entitled GodAssault: Morality as the Ultimate Game which appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle's Insight section. In it, she mentions the following about that the Armageddonists' end-game being a blood-bath:

If you read the Book of Revelation as the physical, material truth, then you come to see God's game as one played in a swirling, planet-devouring vortex of blood and violence.

and before this she writes that the same people who believed in such things were also responsible for electing the delivering the presidency to Bush:

As it happened, those "nuts" won the election for the president. Ill-prepared newscasters promptly relabeled them "moral voters," showing how little they understood about the new religion practiced in Calvary Chapel.

And she argues that these people are only interested in Bush because he was a candidates "who laced his speeches with secret signals to fellow worshipers and considered praying his most important action before starting an unjust war." As a group, the one word which accurately describes their belief system is Armageddonism. Their ultimate hope is for Armageddon to happen within their life-time.

NY Times Reporter Equates Armageddonism w/Anti-semitism

New York Times reporter Chris Hedges equates the arguments of Armageddonists with Hitler's anti-semitism:

"They don't commit crimes; they have things inherently built into their character. I mean, it's very much like anti-Semitism. And the only way to get rid of it is to eradicate it, because to be a Jew, to be a Serb, to be a Muslim is to have these qualities that destroy our civilization, and we must, therefore, destroy them." [continue reading this articl e...]

Take this analysis, and listen to John Hagee, pastor of a San Antonio Mega-church, as he tells his audience "either we kill them (Muslims) or they kill us." The violence he beckons his followers to is chilling. The fact that other leaders don't denounce his statements is the real danger.

Chris Hedges on Armageddonism

On the Colbert Report, Chris Hedges talks about his book, "American Fascists, The Christian Right & the War on America."

So how does this topic fit into the United States of Israel-Palestine theme of this site?

If peace is a building; Armageddonism is a wrecking ball.

Muslim Response to Armageddonism

Dr. Safar Al-Hawali, a muslim scholar, responds to Armageddonism in an article titled, "False Massiahs." It begins with the following words:

America, as Edward Said says, is more occupied with religion than any other nation, and in America there is a totally mad fundamentalist current that seeks to hasten the second-coming of Christ, and who are prepared to do the stupidest thing in the world in order to achieve it. (read on...)

You can't fix the problem unless you study it. So long as the next round of presidential candidates abstain from addressing the tide of Armageddonist activism within the power structure, the war drums will continue to be sounded louder and louder.

Carter Critical of Armaggedon Based Politics

Jimmy Carter is thoroughly unimpressed by their juvial anticipation of war. And equally by their overt efforts to escalate the end time events as they see them:

"Carter has clear suggestions to evangelical Christians both in America and Britain about how to get things back on track. "First of all," he says, "it would be a commitment to the principles that Christ espoused. We worship Him as the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Pre-emptive War. And I have noticed that many leading Christians - I presume many of them call themselves evangelicals - have been among the most militant and warlike members of our society. Even before President Bush decided to invade Iraq, he had strong and public support [for attacking Iraq] from a number of more conservative Christians." -source

David Duke's Interview on CNN

Iran Conf. Holocaust : Duke i.a. Zionism Uploaded by maphia
David Dukes' mistake is to ignore the Armageddonites and view Jews as the primary motive force behind Christian Zionism. As you will see over and over in this blog, Armageddonites are more pro war than the most hawkish Jewish Politicians.

Gershom Gorenberg on Christian Zionism

Commenting on the implications of Apocalypse theology to Jews. [click here to listen to segment]

“They are expecting war and conflict… and they’re seeing this as something positive. Everything leading to peace in the middle east, they see as an illusion.”

What about the instiga-terrorists?

San Antonio Mega-Church Pastor John Hagee puts it on the line -- brainwashing his flock: either we kill them or they kill us! And then he goes on to say that All Palestinians were happy that 911 happened. And then mocks Arafat's blood giving as worthless. And then Netanyahu follows that up with a speach explaining that Palestinians never existed!
Listen to John Hagee, the Sinister Minister, on NPR on Sep, 2006

Artist Draws Picture of American Fundamentalists

"I painted this because I got really pissed off. And the angrier I got, the more I read about these folks and the more I researched this before I actually began painting it, and saw how connected so many of these people were, and how just because all of the guys in that corner had a lot of money, and they were putting it in to start cable networks for these guys, and research foundations so they could have titles in their names for all the guys in the center." -Joel Pelletier

"In American politics, people like Tom DeLay, the Majority leader in the House, has stated, "Only Christianity offers a way to live in response to the realities that we find in the world - only Christianity." And the result is, if you add his power in the House to the money behind that power, and you add to that Tim LaHaye, who is the coauthor of the apocalyptic "Left Behind" novels, and Congressman Dick Army and Howard Phillips and Ralph Reed and Jesse Helms, all of whom belong to a group of Fundamentalist Christians that bring George W. Bush in as a speaker. And you bring these two delusional mythologies together - the Right Wing NeoCons following the delusion of Strauss, and the Right Wing Christian Zionists following the delusions of the interpretations of the Book of Revelation, and you find an incredible solid base of power in the administration that is currently in office in Washington DC." -Willian Cook more... (click here to see the art-work)

Hagee's Obsession with Israel's Destruction

If you look at the main menu of Hagee's website, you'll find the peculiar placement of "Supporting Israel" in the main menu. Is this genuine love for Israel or is it a yearning for Armageddon trying to mask itself as pure Love? Hagee is meticulous in avoiding reference to Armageddon or his faith in Israel's role in the return of Jesus Christ.

You need only look in the store where to find this item which shows the apocalypse mentality which motivates this man

Prophecy and the Middle East

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10 Questions Rumsfeld's replacement should have been asked

Do you believe that dispensationalist end-time philosophy is promoted by the domestic religious forces?
Do you believe that dispensationalist end-time philosophy is for peace in the middle east?
Do you believe that domestic religious forces are for peace?
Do you believe these organizations are promoting a faith based middle east foreign policy?
Do you believe these organizations should have access to people in power?
Who do you believe poses a greater threat to national security: the policies promoted by these organizations or Al-Qaida?
Do you believe these organizations formed the backbone of our policies in Israel promoting the destruction of Palestinian society and creating an aparthied society there?
Do you believe these organizations wish to involve our nation in a new war against Iran?
Do you believe that distancing these organizations from the centers of power will help to balance our international policies?
How do you plan on distancing these organizations from the circles of influence on the domestic front?

Antichrist politics

This 2005 story on Salon.com is a powerful analysis of the logic animating the US domestic religious forces

The current administration in the United States is packed with people who are literal Bible believers and who see in Israel a specific role in the end times." The most visible believers, says Berlet, are Attorney General John Ashcroft, Armey and Delay. My argument is that you don't have to say, 'I am a dispensationalist' to be a person influenced by these apocalyptic metaphors. The more you're embedded in a Christian fundamentalist culture, the more you're going to be influenced by these ideas even if you claim you aren't.

About us

Many people take a glance at this site, and their first reaction is to take offense and point out that this site is not focusing enough on terrorism.

The fact of the matter is, this site vehemently opposes terrorism. We actually propose an alternate solution, instead of just complaining about problems.

Unlike many who uphold apocalypticism as a mandate to live by, we do not believe the rapture is an exit strategy.

This blog is powered by the dream of a brighter future where our foreign policy is based on what is best for our national interests. The exit strategy we propose is a United State of Israel-Palestine. This is the alternative to what many theologians propose when it comes to endorsing immeasurable suffering in the name of fulfilling bible prophesy.

Our aim is to temper faith with reason, not to attack it. It is not to persecute the religious, but to detract those who would use it to mismanage our nation into yet more blunders. This is the hight of patriotism, the peak of decency, and the noble intent of our founding fathers when they separated church from state.

Israel, Palestine, and the Evangelicals

Lobbying for Armageddon: A Chilling Expose - yet national leaders tolerate them

Hagee, a leading cheerleader for the countdown to Armageddon.

The article on AlterNet sums it up well:

"it's not about geopolitics -- it's about bringing about the End Times."

Paul Findley: religious groups main pillars of Israel Lobby

Paul Findley mentions in a May 2006 article which appeared here that the main pillars of the Pro-Israel Lobby in America as being

"minority elements of both Christianity and Judaism."

A more accurate statement would be that it is primarily a Christian affair, but over time a Jewish nationalism grew around it. Yet, the most unwavering enthusiasm comes from Christian zealots due to the dream of an apocalypse which will result in the return of Jesus Christ.

Paul Findley's Lecture on the Isreal Lobby

It is surprising that throughout his lecture, Mr. Findley still avoids to mention the Apocalyptic movers and shakers. It's almost like Lord Voldimort in Harry Potter... their name is not to be mentioned

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The One Percent Doctrine

Solution: Articulating the falsehood of Apocalyptic Eschatology

I was impressed by a rebuttal of Jerry Falwell by a Palestinian Christian author who wrote in his concluding remarks:

"He [Falwell] also overlooks several important biblical texts that explain the theological aspects of the land; instead he limits himself to the territorial aspect of the land, and to territorial and temporal eschatology where righteousness, justice, mercy, and love are less central than eschatological plans and agendas. Finally and sadly, Falwell overlooks his brothers and sisters in Christ who are Palestinians. For him, to stand against Israel is to stand against God but for us to overlook sin and promote injustices is to stand against God."

Another Video Produced by Chearleaders for the Apocalyse

(55 Minutes)

Famed Christian Author Calls for Invasion of Iran and Syria

In this interesting article, you will learn that the peace loving author of the Left Behind series is fed up with his interpretation of the end times not coming true yet. So he urges the US government to go ahead and do the invitation. Here is a quote by someone who watched this unfold:

"I was bored today so I watched Hal Lindsey's 'Intelligence Briefing' show on TBN. Basically his news analysis was no different than that on FOX news about the Iraq War, only he does it under the guise of the Christian faith. He even urged Bush to invade Iran and Syria, to fullfill prophecy or something. :shock: As he explains in 'No Good Deed Goes Unpunished'"

June 2003 Newsletter on Christian Zionism

June 2003 Newsletter on Christian Zionism: " The Christian conservatives, a core constituency for President Bush, are passionately pro-Israel and deeply distrustful of the European Union and the U.N. who are part of the “Quartet” sponsors of the Road Map. On Capitol Hill, the religious right has joined forces with the neoconservative wing of the Republican party and pro-Israel Democrats to form a broad coalition "

Problem: Why Evangelicals Invent 101 Reasons to Hate Muslims

The reason is simple: They think that they have figured out God's plan. They think that after an Armageddon battle in which Muslims are destroyed that Jesus will return. As such, God would not have destroyed Muslims if they aren't evil. So they invent 101 reasons to hate Muslims; and by so doing, attempt to justify why all the secular armament of the United States should be aimed toward Muslims. Robertson states that "the goal of Islam, ladies and gentleman, whether you like it or not, is world domination … And by the way, Islam is not a religion of peace." [more...]

Problem: Apocalyptic Minister's Warmongering to Bring About Armageddon

Christians United for Israel's (CUFI)'s advice to the Bush Administration reflects the Armageddon-based foreign-policy views of its founder, John Hagee. Hagee is a fire-and-brimstone preacher from San Antonio who commands the nearly 18,000-member Cornerstone Church and hosts a major TV ministry where he explains to millions of viewers how the end times will unfold. He is also the author of numerous bestselling pulp-prophecy books, like his recent Jerusalem Countdown, in which he cites various unnamed Israeli intelligence sources to claim that Iran is producing nuclear "suitcase bombs." The only way to defeat the Iranian evildoers, he says, is a full-scale military assault. [read on...]

Sean Hanity & Rush Limbaugh: Distorted world-views

Religious dogma fogging up prospect for peace. Sean Hanity, a right wing radio talk show host, interviewed the Jeff Rosenberg, about his new book, the Ezekiel Option. To the mainstream, this book is marketed as just a harmless fiction. In reality it is about giving prophetic support to the idea that

It's God's plan to create the state of Israel.
Those who support a different type of Israel (than the present gerrymandered 'democracy') are in fact anti-God, and therefore evil.
The evil anti-Israel countries will be destroyed according to prophesy.
Jesus Christ will return after that destruction.
Our foreign policy must be crafted so that we are against evil, hence we should support the destruction of the countries prophesy says will be destroyed..

How does the right media react to this: wild applause. How does the leftist liberal media react to this: as if it doesn't exist.

Wake up people. These people have a distorted vision of the world. They dictate policy based on it. If they are not countered, they will certainly deliver the rest of us to hell in a hand basket.

Rosenberg says to Sean Hanity about the purpose of the Ezekiel Option:

"Anyone listening to your show today I think will resonate with the Ezekiel Option; because it's a political thriller, but it certainly comes from a Christian and a Jewish perspective on world events... Really at the heart of these books is the fear that if you don't understand the nature and threat of evil, a person risks being blind-sided by it. That's what happened on 9/11. And we cannot afford to be blind-sided again by Iran, by Russia, by Syria, or honestly by those in Washington who have a modern secular liberal perspective who may not see evil until it hits them."

US News calls him: "A modern Nostradamus."

And Sean Hannity of course just adores this guy and treats him as a prophet, not just an author saying "You're very gifted and talented. There's something that's just eerie about how your book fits into current events."

And citing his previous fictional books, Joel Rosenberg gloats about his predictions in those books (suggesting he has an uncanny ability to look into the future in his fictional writings so the audience better treat his writings are prophetic):

"I rightly predicted the death of Yasser Arafat and Saddam is gone."
- Interview with Sean Hannity

Rush Limbaugh gives an enthusiastic two thumbs up for this book on the back cover, saying "If you only read one book this year, let it be this one." This is printed on the back cover of this armageddonist book. By a major right-wing talking-head. Think what that means to all the ditto-heads.

You may be interested to hear the interview Rush did with Rosenberg. Rush practically gloats that Rosenberg once worked at his headquarters - rather than being embarassed that such a strang ideology flourished in his own backyard.

Solution: Deconstructing Neo-Secular Arguments

Nelson Mandella deconstructs and rebuffs Thomas Friedman's account of the dynamics of the middle east conflict thus:

The value of separation is measured in terms of the ability of Israel to keep the Jewish state Jewish, and not to have a Palestinian minority that could have the opportunity to become a majority at some time in the future. If this takes place, it would force Israel to either become a secular democratic or bi-national state, or to turn into a state of apartheid not only de facto, but also de jure. [Letter from Nelson Mandella to Thomas Friedman, 2001]

It is no secret. What is happening is clear as the sun. The Jewish inhabitans of the new state are motivated by a nationalism which Einstien cautioned against. So why does the WASP power structure in the USA encourage it? The reason ? You may not be ready for the reason. I'll share it with you anyway:

It's because there is a massive undercurrent of religious dogma which blinds both politician and news anchor; and by extension the fickle masses into mis-percieving reality. You need only listen to the chatter and clearly you will hear it: they want to create the conditions so as to bring Jesus back - they want Armageddon (AKA conflict of civilizations/WWIII).

Problem: The hinderance to peace

A Jewish Rabbi observes that Apocalyptic Right is a hindrance to peace:

"...as a reflection of their End Times theology, the message of the Christian Right to U.S. policymakers is ‘don’t be involved in getting the parties to the negotiating table,’ then they certainly are... an impediment to the peace process, and that isn’t helpful." [Source: "Culture, Religion, Apocalypse, and Middle East Foreign Policy"]

Solution: Debunking Premellinial Dispensationalism

Presence Ministries has nice videos which use Christian arguments to debunk the Apocalyptic views espoused by powerful members of the Evangelical movement.

Problem: Rev. Hagee's Support for Genocide in - Jesus Name

The theology which supports massive terror is investigated in this article which examines the views of Reverend Hagee, pastor of a Mega Church with 16,000 members in San Antonio, Texas. When Rev. Hagee speaks, the white house listens. This Reverend has access to the elected officials in the USA. If you want to change US foreign policy, a concise response is needed to each one of John Hagee's arguments and sent to every member of congress and the Bush Administration, who apparently share the views of the sinister minister.

"...given the immense clout enjoyed by its advocates today, especially in America, it is a much more menacing threat to world peace than is sometimes imagined and cannot be simply dismissed as the ravings of lunatics on the fringe."[Read on...]

Problem: Pat Robertson's Extremism

Look at these two reasons he puts forward:

Ladies and Gentleman, evangelical Christians support Israel because we believe that the words of Moses and the ancient prophets of Israel were inspired by God. We believe that the emergence of a Jewish state in the land promised by God to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was ordained by God.' We believe that God has a plan for this nation...' We believe that God has a plan for this nation which He intends to be a blessing to all the nations of the earth.
Of course, we, like all right-thinking people, support Israel because Israel is an island of democracy, an island of individual freedom, an island of the rule of law, and an island of modernity in the midst of a sea of dictatorial regimes, the suppression of individual liberty, and a fanatical religion intent on returning to the feudalism of 8th Century Arabia.
The fight is not about money or territory; it is not about poverty versus wealth; it is not about ancient customs versus modernity. No-the struggle is whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah God of the Bible is Supreme. [Pat Robertson's Website]

The first reason he mentions breaches the boundary of separation of Church and State to support a religious state. The second reason destroys democracy in America while claiming to uphold it abroad; calling to go back to 1st Century feudalism as opposed to 8th Century.

Finaly Pat Robertson gives a third reason, which is to say, our God is bigger than their God. This is the idiocy of Pat and his ilk. He doesn't recognize the fact that Muslims worship the God of Moses and Abraham because his mind is stuck in dark places where the only thing he sees are looming wars and references to the world as described in the old Testament where everyone living around the Jews did not know of God. This is a deep purposeful poison he entrenches in his audience.

Pat Robertson reminds me of the character in the movie "Kingdom of Heaven" who goes around killing Muslims saying "GOD WILLS IT."

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